I thought I'd found it. After literally a little bit of searching, I thought I'd finally found out what happens if the UK population hits 70 million that is so heinous we need to noisily defecate at the mere thought.
As always happens when you find something important, I was looking for something else when I stumbled across what I thought would be the grail, the one ring, the M'Kraan Crystal of anti-immigration scaremongering. What I was looking for was reasoning behind the latest weird, outlandish immigration conspiracy theory.
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18/02/2010
Multicultural plots and the reason 70 million is a scary number
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29/10/2009
Red herrings and multicultural plots
One newspaper technique for fooling people is the red herring. Here's how it works. Someone offers a list of things that have happened or reasons for something happening and the papers choose the most outrageous or ridiculous and focus on it as if it's the only one.Luckily for me, who wanted to write more about this, there has been a great example of a more subtle than usual red herring causing a massive brouhaha in the press in the last week or so.
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17/05/2009
The Mail/BNP Syndrome
I've spoken before about how the Daily Mail is often superficially critical of the BNP, calling the party names but actually producing material not that different from what you'd expect to see in a BNP campaign leaflet. Sometimes, this can happen in the same story.
Not always though. 'An economy in chaos and now those expenses. BNP leaders hope it's the 'perfect storm' that will sweep them to power', from Saturday's edition isn't an awful attempt to expose the BNP, although it is a little thin on substance and it probably talks up the goons' 'successes' a bit too much, but it is at least critical all the way through and traces the party's lineage back to Oswald Mosely. Of course, the paper's own lineage stretches back to supporting fascism in the thirties, but that's not too important in this story.
Not always though. 'An economy in chaos and now those expenses. BNP leaders hope it's the 'perfect storm' that will sweep them to power', from Saturday's edition isn't an awful attempt to expose the BNP, although it is a little thin on substance and it probably talks up the goons' 'successes' a bit too much, but it is at least critical all the way through and traces the party's lineage back to Oswald Mosely. Of course, the paper's own lineage stretches back to supporting fascism in the thirties, but that's not too important in this story.
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04/12/2006
More moaning about things being un-Christian?
Depressingly, there is more about making things more Christian in the Mail, this time with 'Less Christianity, more Islam and Hinduism'. It seems the paper (and other tabloids) might be taking Melanie Phillips' suggestion* that Britain re-Christianise a bit seriously.
From the article:
The important bit from this article though, is this:
*And the BNP's. Funnily enough, the BNP like the 'keep a proper Christmas' stuff as well. Just visit their website for more if you don't believe me. I'm not fucking linking to them.
From the article:
Councillors accused authorities of a cover-up, saying that while the need to teach children about other world religions is obvious the lack of education on Christianity in a Christian country was going too far.and:
However critics reportedly insisted the nation's religion was being turned in to a sideshow in the name of political correctness.In both of these are the 'Britain is a Christian country' theme that's mentioned in the Sun's rubbish story from my last post. That's worrying for people like me who are not Christian, and follow no religion at all.
The important bit from this article though, is this:
However when the lack of time devoted to Christianity sparked protests, Buckinghamshire education authorities reportedly removed those numbers from official documents.You know what that means? Removing things from official documents means they are no longer Council policy. Reporting that things have been removed from official documents but not making it clear that they are no longer policy means tha the paper, again, is not interested in giving their readers an accurate impression of the truth and only in whipping up hysteria about Britain becoming - horror or horrors - secular. Like when they say Christmas has been banned.
*And the BNP's. Funnily enough, the BNP like the 'keep a proper Christmas' stuff as well. Just visit their website for more if you don't believe me. I'm not fucking linking to them.
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30/11/2006
There's a limit to the amount you can say about fish with swivelly eyes you know
When I think about what goes on in Melanie Phillips' head, which is mercifully infrequent, I can't help but hear the sound of an out of tune calliope in a deserted fairground where a grinning little girl repeatedly stabs a dirty rag doll in the face with a bradawl. Probably says as much about my sanity as it does hers, but anyway. Just thought I'd share.
I've got bored again and delved into Melanie's website. Her diary entry from 28 November is titled 'Now Muslims oppose the Olympic mosque'. You can guess what she's going to say, but anyway, a little quote:
I'm not really. The thing is, if you can ignore that Muslims are actually a large group of people - some with different opinions to others - then you can take any comment from any Muslim and apply it to the whole group as proof of what Muslims want. Which is handy for Mel.
It can become extremely useful if you want to demonise the whole group. It completely obviates the need for engaging in any argument or working hard to find out facts yourself. You can say, 'Muslims are shrewd and perspicacious and want to take over the world,' because one little subset of them might have said so, at the same time as saying, 'actually, Muslims are poor and oppressed,' because another little subset of them doesn't like another subset - who may or may not be a part of the first 'shrewd' lot - although you can safely assume they are, because the ones doing the accusing are Muslims, and therefore clearly represent what all Muslims think. Except the first group. And the third. Those groups represent what all Muslims want at other times, when you want to argue Muslims aren't poor and oppressed. My head hurts.
Not wanting to get all wanky, but it's the entire Western representation of Muslims in microcosm. Muslims are fearsome and nasty and must be stopped at the same time as being poor and desparate and needing our help.
I wonder if it hurts Melanie Phillips' head as much as mine. Muslims want this, no they want that. Muslims want to build an enormous mosque. Muslims want to take over the world. Muslims want to MURDER US ALL IN OUR BEDS! Oh, when will we help the poor Muslims? I wish she'd make up her bloody mind. And stop stabbing that rag doll so ferociously. It's creeping me out.
I've got bored again and delved into Melanie's website. Her diary entry from 28 November is titled 'Now Muslims oppose the Olympic mosque'. You can guess what she's going to say, but anyway, a little quote:
Now that Muslims themselves have added their explicit voice to the local protests against the Tablighi Jamaat mosque, will the government finally listen? Or will it continue its policy of abandoning Muslims – along with everyone else – to the extremism that so threatens them, and which it has so consistently and shamefully appeased?But . . . but . . . I thought the mosque was proof of how Muslims are evil and want to take over the world. Not poor helpless people who can only survive with intervention from our superior western princilpes. I'm confused.
I'm not really. The thing is, if you can ignore that Muslims are actually a large group of people - some with different opinions to others - then you can take any comment from any Muslim and apply it to the whole group as proof of what Muslims want. Which is handy for Mel.
It can become extremely useful if you want to demonise the whole group. It completely obviates the need for engaging in any argument or working hard to find out facts yourself. You can say, 'Muslims are shrewd and perspicacious and want to take over the world,' because one little subset of them might have said so, at the same time as saying, 'actually, Muslims are poor and oppressed,' because another little subset of them doesn't like another subset - who may or may not be a part of the first 'shrewd' lot - although you can safely assume they are, because the ones doing the accusing are Muslims, and therefore clearly represent what all Muslims think. Except the first group. And the third. Those groups represent what all Muslims want at other times, when you want to argue Muslims aren't poor and oppressed. My head hurts.
Not wanting to get all wanky, but it's the entire Western representation of Muslims in microcosm. Muslims are fearsome and nasty and must be stopped at the same time as being poor and desparate and needing our help.
I wonder if it hurts Melanie Phillips' head as much as mine. Muslims want this, no they want that. Muslims want to build an enormous mosque. Muslims want to take over the world. Muslims want to MURDER US ALL IN OUR BEDS! Oh, when will we help the poor Muslims? I wish she'd make up her bloody mind. And stop stabbing that rag doll so ferociously. It's creeping me out.
06/11/2006
Swivel-eyed fish burst the barrel
I've been caught napping while Melanie Phillips has said some particularly dumb nonsense.
Curses!
It's been picked up all over the place because it's so boneheaded - see Pickled Politics, Shuggy's Blog, Ministry of Truth (twice), Stumbling and Mumbling, and Not Saussure - but as two fish seem to have grown to be particularly enormous to the point of outgrowing their barrel, they're begging to be shot.
I was going to be brief, but bugger it.
Firstly, from 'Dying to submit':
Okay. Easy answer number one - when Britain had a more explicitly Christian population, Jewish people didn't exactly fare very well. Given that they were forced to convert or were expelled from the country and that.
Easy answer number two - Britain is already an explicitly Christian state. I'll do the little list again. Our head of state is head of a Christian church (and must be protestant Christian by law), our Prime Minister is Christian (and has to be a protestant Christian by law), most of our cabinet are Christian, the majority of our population is Christian, a number of Christian bishops are given automatic seats in the House of Lords, our national flag is made up of symbols of various Christian saints, we have a blasphemy law that only applies to Christianity, the first word of our national anthem is 'God' and the rest of its content is an extended prayer asking him to do various things for the head of the Church of England.
Easy answer number three - this has already been covered elsewhere - Melanie Phillips doesn't want to convert to Christianity herself. It's precisely because of our Christian Government's secular approach to the population's own religious beliefs that Phillips is able to make the choice to remain a non-Christian. I presume she isn't calling for the re-introduction of inquisitions, but I fear I may be too generous.
A couple of other bits:
Now, I'm only speaking for this secularist, but I think Christianity is also an example of the forces of irrational belief. To say to a secularist like me, 'Hey, you know how to fight irrational belief? Adopt an irrational belief system!' Is so dense it hurts my head.
There is something else I want to say about this idiocy, but it's relevant to the next bit I want to quote, so I'll do that first:
I don't think it's 'better to be dhimmi than dead' becasuse a) I think 'dhimmi' is a horrible word, used in a similar manner to the term 'n*gger lover' and I do not accept the premise that would lead me to believe that such a thing exists in the same way Melanie Phillips does, and; b) because I do not think that 'resisting the irrational belief at the heart of the Islamic jihad' (which is a nicer way of saying 'being nasty and paranoid about Muslims') would lead to my death. Mel seems to be doing alright out of it.
It's not that I'm not prepared to die for any cause. I'm not prepared to die for your cause. Because it's not noble. It's imaginary racist shite.
But this is my favourite bit:
Because we don't accept that the Muslims are evil and shrewd and plotting to take over the world, we're racist?
Quick heads up. It's not because we don't think they're clever enough, you numpty! It's because we don't think they're inherently evil! This is like saying, 'You're racist for not believing black people are resourceful enough to be muggers!' or, 'You're anti-semetic because you think Jews lack the shrewdness and perspicacity to be able to engage in a global conspiracy!' It's too funny.
And another thing, when anyone says Mel's racist for saying nasty things about Muslims, she argures that she can't be because, 'Islam is not a race but a religion.' But when she says her opponents do it, it suddenly becomes racist to criticise Muslims. Make your bloody mind up!
(Plus, it is bloody racist. Bartlett's Bizarre Bazaar has a good post on the subject).
At this point though, I've started to wonder whether Phillips herself believes this idiotic nonsense. It's become like watching some bloody medium on Living, where the only relevant question is not whether they can talk to the dead, but whether they know they can't. Does she know this is complete cack, or is she deluded enough to actually believe it?
Curses!
It's been picked up all over the place because it's so boneheaded - see Pickled Politics, Shuggy's Blog, Ministry of Truth (twice), Stumbling and Mumbling, and Not Saussure - but as two fish seem to have grown to be particularly enormous to the point of outgrowing their barrel, they're begging to be shot.
I was going to be brief, but bugger it.
Firstly, from 'Dying to submit':
And that is why I, a British Jew, argue that it is vital that Britain and Europe re-Christianise if they are to have any chance of defending western values.
Okay. Easy answer number one - when Britain had a more explicitly Christian population, Jewish people didn't exactly fare very well. Given that they were forced to convert or were expelled from the country and that.
Easy answer number two - Britain is already an explicitly Christian state. I'll do the little list again. Our head of state is head of a Christian church (and must be protestant Christian by law), our Prime Minister is Christian (and has to be a protestant Christian by law), most of our cabinet are Christian, the majority of our population is Christian, a number of Christian bishops are given automatic seats in the House of Lords, our national flag is made up of symbols of various Christian saints, we have a blasphemy law that only applies to Christianity, the first word of our national anthem is 'God' and the rest of its content is an extended prayer asking him to do various things for the head of the Church of England.
Easy answer number three - this has already been covered elsewhere - Melanie Phillips doesn't want to convert to Christianity herself. It's precisely because of our Christian Government's secular approach to the population's own religious beliefs that Phillips is able to make the choice to remain a non-Christian. I presume she isn't calling for the re-introduction of inquisitions, but I fear I may be too generous.
A couple of other bits:
The useful idiots who believe that only a secular society can hold off the forces of irrational belief at the heart of the Islamic jihad have got this diametrically the wrong way round.
Now, I'm only speaking for this secularist, but I think Christianity is also an example of the forces of irrational belief. To say to a secularist like me, 'Hey, you know how to fight irrational belief? Adopt an irrational belief system!' Is so dense it hurts my head.
There is something else I want to say about this idiocy, but it's relevant to the next bit I want to quote, so I'll do that first:
Dying for a cause, however noble, becomes an absolute no-no. It’s better to be dhimmi than dead – the view that has now effectively prevailed in Britain and Europe.Now, I can only speak for myself but I'm pretty sure quite a few people on my side of the fence in this argument would agree. What Phillips has done here is used a false opposition to set up another of her strawmen. I do not accept that there is an evil force of Islamisation creeping across Europe. I think that idea is a paranoid exaggeration, believed by gullible people and pushed by racists in a similar way to the idea of a Jewish conspiracy that was popular until the right found another scapegoat.
I don't think it's 'better to be dhimmi than dead' becasuse a) I think 'dhimmi' is a horrible word, used in a similar manner to the term 'n*gger lover' and I do not accept the premise that would lead me to believe that such a thing exists in the same way Melanie Phillips does, and; b) because I do not think that 'resisting the irrational belief at the heart of the Islamic jihad' (which is a nicer way of saying 'being nasty and paranoid about Muslims') would lead to my death. Mel seems to be doing alright out of it.
It's not that I'm not prepared to die for any cause. I'm not prepared to die for your cause. Because it's not noble. It's imaginary racist shite.
But this is my favourite bit:
The Islamists, whose shrewdness and perspicacity are consistently overlooked by racist European liberals who believe that Arabs and Muslims are too backward to have anything intelligent to say [...]HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! [PANT!] HA HAHA HA HA HA HAHAHA HA HA! [PANTPANTPANT!] NO, STOPPIT! [PANT!] HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAH! I think a bit of wee came out.
Because we don't accept that the Muslims are evil and shrewd and plotting to take over the world, we're racist?
Quick heads up. It's not because we don't think they're clever enough, you numpty! It's because we don't think they're inherently evil! This is like saying, 'You're racist for not believing black people are resourceful enough to be muggers!' or, 'You're anti-semetic because you think Jews lack the shrewdness and perspicacity to be able to engage in a global conspiracy!' It's too funny.
And another thing, when anyone says Mel's racist for saying nasty things about Muslims, she argures that she can't be because, 'Islam is not a race but a religion.' But when she says her opponents do it, it suddenly becomes racist to criticise Muslims. Make your bloody mind up!
(Plus, it is bloody racist. Bartlett's Bizarre Bazaar has a good post on the subject).
At this point though, I've started to wonder whether Phillips herself believes this idiotic nonsense. It's become like watching some bloody medium on Living, where the only relevant question is not whether they can talk to the dead, but whether they know they can't. Does she know this is complete cack, or is she deluded enough to actually believe it?
25/10/2006
More from the swivel-eyed little fishies
More craziness from Melanie Phillips this week in her diary entry 'Britain's eyes stay veiled'. I'm not going to go through the whole thing this time, for fear of straining my bottom lip from stuffing my tongue behind it and shouting at my monitor. So here are the two most glaring idiocies:
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The idea that the media is too cowed to criticise Islam is an idiotic confection. I mean it as a serious point - if it was true, Melanie Phillips would be out of a job.
In itself, that wouldn't be such a bad thing, I suppose.
Yes, there have been some attacks on Muslims which are totally reprehensible. But does that mean the subject of Islamic extremism is to be totally off limits? In any event, such attacks are just as likely to be the result of frustration with the failure to address the problem; or (as Phillips himself also observed) the entirely separate influx into the country of East Europeans who are — dismayingly — deeply prejudiced against black or Asian people, and would be so whatever may or may not be said in public about them.So, Muslims are attacked because people are frustrated with not being able to address the problem of Islamic extremism because Muslims won't allow them to. In other words, it's Muslims' fault that they're attacked. Nice one. And it's immigrants doing it anyway. Racist much?
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Ugly? Bullying? ‘A trial of one particular community’? Surely, it’s those who draw attention to Islamic extremism who are mostly on the receiving end of ugly bullying. Any mention of ‘Islamic terrorism’ produces instantaneous denunciation as an ‘Islamophobe’, racist, bigot and all the rest of it — backed up by the implicit threat of violence, a state of affairs which started with the fatwa against the life of Salman Rushdie. As a result, the British media are now so cowed and intimidated they refuse to publish much vital discussion about Islam, to the terrible detriment of free and vital debate.Question for Melanie Phillips: If the media is so cowed it's not possible to criticise Islam, howcome you've got a job? You say, "There is a huge problem of Islamic extremism in Britain, very little is being done about it, and until Straw’s comments about the veil it wasn’t even discussed." Presumably, you're aware of the book 'Londonistan', the sole purpose of which is to discuss Islamic extremism. You know, the book you wrote. How was that book released a few months before Straw's comments if it wasn't discussed?
The idea that the media is too cowed to criticise Islam is an idiotic confection. I mean it as a serious point - if it was true, Melanie Phillips would be out of a job.
In itself, that wouldn't be such a bad thing, I suppose.
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20/10/2006
Great stuff about Melanie Phillips
Steven Poole at Unspeak has some fantastic stuff about Melanie Phillips. It's funnier and better written than mine. Read it here and here.
Ah well, it might be funnier - but does it mention potatoes or swivel-eyed fish?
I think not.
Ah well, it might be funnier - but does it mention potatoes or swivel-eyed fish?
I think not.
17/10/2006
Like shooting swivel-eyed fish in a barrel
Melanie Phillips' column in the Mail is always good for a laugh. Well, I say laugh - I mean 'look at with raised eyebrows and a mouth formed into an O of astonished terror - like watching a schoolbus full of children drive over a cliff'. Taking apart her column is like shooting fish in a barrel, but I'm going to do it today because, well, I likes a bit of fish, dun't I?
Yesterday's column opens with a nice little bit of water-muddying to create an argument. She says:
First of all, she says, "British Airways is being sued for religious discrimination after it required a Christian woman employee to conceal her cross while permitting other faiths to wear turbans, hijabs or Hindu bangles." which confuses the actual issue and makes it look as though the woman was told not to wear a cross because it's a cross. This is rubbish. She was told not to wear a cross because it's jewellery, and visible jewellery isn't allowed without permission. Wearing a visible cross is not and has never been a requirement in Christianity in the same way that turbans, hijabs and Hindu bangles are for some Sikhs, Muslims and Hindus - hence their not being exempt. Next!
Secondly, she says, "This echoed the controversy earlier this month when the BBC agonised over whether newsreader Fiona Bruce should wear a small cross on a chain in case it might cause offence." What controversy? I never heard about it. Anyway, Fiona Bruce wasn't told not to wear her cross, although the matter was apparently discussed by managers, and she decided to remove it herself.
She carries on with a paragraph that includes a few weird statements that come from that special part of the atmosphere that you can only tune into if you have a Melanie Phillips potato, colander and tinfoil hat:
Longer answer - class of children who don't speak English as a first language? The entire class? Where? Voice they can't even hear properly? How's that then? Got any actual evidence for either of these claims? Thought not. Got any evidence for how the BBC thinks about the matter of wearing a cross, beyond knowing that some execs thought it was a bad idea? Didn't think you'd have that either.
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Next part of that paragraph:
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Away from the Phillipsosphere and in reality, the actual women in question here were attending constituency sessions with their local MP, thus participating in the democratic process and not actually being separatist, or assisting in a class in a Church of England school, thus participating in wider society and not actually being separatist. In fact, I can't think of a better example of integration than the latter. You know someone holds an irrational prejudice when they can state a view that is directly contradicted by actual evidence.
Next, we get to see why it is irresponsible and devisive for Government Ministers to make the pronouncements they have over the last few weeks:
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I'll skip the next paragraph, because the one following it is so priceless:
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Now, remember the next paragraph, particularly this sentence:
And that, my friends is bullshit.
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So, in a shocking unexpected turn of events, Phillips believed shonky reports that blamed Muslims without checking the facts. And Muslims are not demonised in a country where national newspapers can publish stories wrongly attributing crimes to Muslims without retracting them.
The next three paragraphs show Phillips yet again argue for religious values to take precedence over the secular in a similar way to her imagined opponents. There is one choice quote here, "Local councils have abolished Christmas as offensive." No they haven't. One local council has started using a different word. Something I think is stupid - but not the same as abolishing Christmas. And that's a move towards the secular values you pretend to revere, you buffoon.
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Plus, the KICC is not Church of England, but evangelical. Or, extremist, you might say - if you used the same criteria to describe extremism as Phillips does for Muslims. And there's this from the KICC website:
And, from Wikipedia:
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Yesterday's column opens with a nice little bit of water-muddying to create an argument. She says:
Suddenly , Britain seems to be developing into a cultural and religious battleground.She supports this argument by setting up three things that have undeniably happened and pitting them against confected strawman arguments as the opponents on the 'battleground'. (Notice also that none of the dodgy opposing army in her made up battle are of the calibre of Government Ministers, so the battle would already be one sided, even if the opposing army weren't made entirely of straw, which it is).
First of all, she says, "British Airways is being sued for religious discrimination after it required a Christian woman employee to conceal her cross while permitting other faiths to wear turbans, hijabs or Hindu bangles." which confuses the actual issue and makes it look as though the woman was told not to wear a cross because it's a cross. This is rubbish. She was told not to wear a cross because it's jewellery, and visible jewellery isn't allowed without permission. Wearing a visible cross is not and has never been a requirement in Christianity in the same way that turbans, hijabs and Hindu bangles are for some Sikhs, Muslims and Hindus - hence their not being exempt. Next!
Secondly, she says, "This echoed the controversy earlier this month when the BBC agonised over whether newsreader Fiona Bruce should wear a small cross on a chain in case it might cause offence." What controversy? I never heard about it. Anyway, Fiona Bruce wasn't told not to wear her cross, although the matter was apparently discussed by managers, and she decided to remove it herself.
She carries on with a paragraph that includes a few weird statements that come from that special part of the atmosphere that you can only tune into if you have a Melanie Phillips potato, colander and tinfoil hat:
How can Britain have arrived at a situation where it is seriously argued that a class of children who don’t speak English as their first language should be taught by a shrouded woman whose expression they can’t see and whose voice they can’t even hear properly — while the BBC thinks that wearing the symbol of Britain’s established religion might be offensive?Quick answer - it hasn't, you bozo.
Longer answer - class of children who don't speak English as a first language? The entire class? Where? Voice they can't even hear properly? How's that then? Got any actual evidence for either of these claims? Thought not. Got any evidence for how the BBC thinks about the matter of wearing a cross, beyond knowing that some execs thought it was a bad idea? Didn't think you'd have that either.
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The source of this confusion is a profound loss of national, cultural and religious nerve. The Christian values that once defined national identity have simply collapsed[...]Now she's just being silly. I mean, really. Christian Head of State (who is also head of a Cristian denomination), Christian Prime Minister (Christian by law, by the way), largely Christian cabinet, Christian Bishops given automatic seats in the Lords, blasphemy law that applies only to Christianity, majority Christian population - and yet Christian values have collapsed. The who in the what now?
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Those who defend the Muslim veil are grossly misreading the situation. It is not some picturesque religious garment equivalent to the often curious attire worn by members of other religions.Who's said the 'picturesque religious garment' thing and when? Nobody, that's who. I wonder if Phillips has ever met an opponent who wasn't made entirely of straw.
Next part of that paragraph:
It is associated instead with the most extreme version of Islam, which holds that Islamic values must take precedence over the secular state.This is just bonkers! Has she forgotten that she herself was arguing that an explicitly religious definition of national identity should take precedence over the 'secular state' just one paragraph ago? Why is it only extremist when people think Islamic values should take precedence over the state, but not when Judeo-Christian values should? She has also clearly forgotten that the UK is NOT a secular state. It's explicitly Christian, as outlined above. Or is it that in the Phillipsosphere, 'secular' and 'Christian' are interchangeable?
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Only a small minority of British Muslim women choose to wear this veil. But unlike other religious attire, it is thus inherently separatist and perceived by some as intimidatory. That is why it is unacceptable.It's separatist because it's worn by a minority? That's what the 'thus' suggests, but it can't be that, because only a small minority of British Christian women (a minority of one, as far as I'm aware) feel it's necessary to their faith to display a cross, but they're not being called separatist. Or pehaps the 'perceived by some as intimidatory' is the important part of the sentence. In which case, Phillips presumably thinks people who wear hoodies or have visible tattoos are separatists.
Away from the Phillipsosphere and in reality, the actual women in question here were attending constituency sessions with their local MP, thus participating in the democratic process and not actually being separatist, or assisting in a class in a Church of England school, thus participating in wider society and not actually being separatist. In fact, I can't think of a better example of integration than the latter. You know someone holds an irrational prejudice when they can state a view that is directly contradicted by actual evidence.
Next, we get to see why it is irresponsible and devisive for Government Ministers to make the pronouncements they have over the last few weeks:
Belatedly, there seems to be a dawning recognition in Government of the extreme danger into which British society has been placed both by the doctrine of multiculturalism, [...] Hence Mr Woolas’s remarks, the show of ministerial support for Jack Straw [...]If Government Ministers spout Islamophobic drivel, extremist right-wing anti Islamic nutjobs will think their views are justified, as evidenced here.
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opinion polls reveal that between 40 and 60 per cent of British Muslims want to live under sharia law[...]Which opinion polls are these, and what definition of 'sharia law' were they using? Are the poll respondents using the same definition? See, the Qu'ran is much like the Bible in that its text can be interpreted in different ways, so sharia law to some will mean a different thing than to others. A bit like how Phillips wants our society to be more explicitly Judeo-Christian without wanting adultresses to be stoned to death (I presume). The next part of the sentence about areas of cities becoming sharia enclaves is just an unsupported assertion.
I'll skip the next paragraph, because the one following it is so priceless:
Faith schools would be forced to turn away children of their own religion in favour of others who would significantly dilute the cultural and religious identity of the school. And can anyone really see non-Muslim parents being forced to send their children to Muslim schools where — as one Muslim headmaster has already declared — non-Muslim girls would have to wear the hijab?Right, so, you're a separatist if you're a Muslim who assists at a Church of England school, but you're not if you argure that 'the cultural and religious identity' of faith schools should remain undiluted by separating them from people of other faiths. I think my Melanie Phillips hat needs a coathanger or something, because there is no way I could ever see how actually arguing that people should be separated from one another is not separatist, while actually mixing with another culture is separatist - no matter what you're bloody wearing.
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But the problem lies deeper still. It is not so much separatism as a desire in some quarters to Islamise Britain.Read that again. Islamise Britain. Now play some creepy music in your head when you read it. Islamise Britain. Scary isn't it? I feel I should say why this is stupid just for form's sake. What quarters are trying to [cue the creepy music - maybe the background music from the old Crimestoppers adverts] Islamise Britain, and are they capable of it? Women wearing the niqab make up about only 5 percent of Muslim women, who make up roughly 1.5 percent of the population, I'd say maybe not, since that translates to about 0.075 percent of the entire population.
Next:
Mohammed Abdul Bari, chairman of the Muslim Council of Britain, has said explicitly that he wants to encourage Britain to adopt Islamic traditions, including arranged marriages, and can’t see any reason why anyone should object.Arranged marriages aren't just an Islamic tradition, you maroon. It amazes me that someone can argue so vociferously for the adoption of one set of religious traditions and at the same time demonise someone else for doing the same thing with their set of religious traditions. Aside from arranged marriages, what 'Islamic traditions' are Mohammed Abdul Bari arguing should be adopted? Are they that different from Judeo-Christian ones? Let's see, shall we? From the actual interview on the Telegraph website, we can see he said:
He thinks that non-Muslim Britons would benefit from having arranged marriages and espousing stronger family values; they would also do well to stop drinking and gambling and to follow many of the teachings of Islam.Ooh. Scary. Espousing stronger family values and stopping drinking and gambling. That's controversial.
Next:
Unsurprisingly, the MCB is now accusing ministers of being ‘Islamophobic’.Yes, unsurprisingly. Because they fucking are.
Now, remember the next paragraph, particularly this sentence:
Certainly, it is vital to prevent the demonisation of all Muslims.Because when she goes on to say:
The recent disturbances in Windsor sounded an urgent alarm. The Muslim owner of a dairy in the town applied for planning permission to turn it into a mosque and Islamic centre. Although the council turned down the application, locals say the owner ignored this and extremist worshippers regularly turned up in the dairy to pray.She clearly thinks she's not demonising these Muslims by calling them 'extremist' for praying. And when she says:
Trouble flared when a 15-year-old non-Muslim boy was attacked outside the ‘mosque’. When the boy’s mother and 18-year-old sister arrived to remonstrate, they were apparently set upon by people, allegedly from within the building, wielding iron bars and pitchforks.She clearly thinks she's not demonising these Muslims by completely taking the opposing side at face value and not once wondering whether the Muslims here started an unprovoked attack, en masse. And when she says:
This set in train four nights of disturbances when, according to the police, both white racists and Muslim extremists muscled in and the dairy was firebombed.She thinks she's not demonising the Muslims by blaming them for being attacked and firebombed.
And that, my friends is bullshit.
Next:
In a further unrelated but disturbing development in the town, four British soldiers returning from Afghanistan were forced to abandon a house they were planning to rent after threats and intimidation by Muslims. And all this in the heart of the Home Counties.Yes, this would be disturbing. If it in fact happened. The story appears to be made up. From the local paper, we have the story ''No religion was labelled' responsible for vandalism':
REPORTS that soldiers were driven out of a Berkshire village by racists have been disputed by Thames Valley Police. [...] The caller said that the soldiers were not welcome because houses in the road are expensive - around £600,000 - and that the soldiers presence might lower property values. [...] He added: "Inquiries carried out to date conclude that there is no evidence to suggest that this was racially motivated. The MoD has also informed me that Combermere Barracks did not receive any threatening calls from Muslims or people claiming to be Muslims in relation to this incident."
So, in a shocking unexpected turn of events, Phillips believed shonky reports that blamed Muslims without checking the facts. And Muslims are not demonised in a country where national newspapers can publish stories wrongly attributing crimes to Muslims without retracting them.
The next three paragraphs show Phillips yet again argue for religious values to take precedence over the secular in a similar way to her imagined opponents. There is one choice quote here, "Local councils have abolished Christmas as offensive." No they haven't. One local council has started using a different word. Something I think is stupid - but not the same as abolishing Christmas. And that's a move towards the secular values you pretend to revere, you buffoon.
Next:
The most grotesque example of all, however, is surely the proposal to build the largest mosque in Europe on the site of the Olympic village in east London. The most prominent landmark on the Olympic site, it is intended to symbolise Islamic power in Britain.Really, it's the most prominent landmark on the site, is it? More prominent than any of the sports facilities and stadia? And how does she know it's meant to symbolise anything? Where does she get this from? And saying that plans to build a big mosque are 'grotesque' doesn't demonise Muslims, presumably.
Worse still, it is being funded by the Tablighi Jamaat, said by French intelligence and the FBI to be the most significant recruiters for Al Qaeda in Europe.I'd like to see the evidence for both assertions. I might dig into it, but it seems pointless to actually make any effort to shoot down this nutjob's arguments when it's perfectly possible to do so without having to.
Next:
And to cap it all, within a mile of the site, the largest church in Europe — the Kingsway International Christian Centre — has been compulsorily purchased and is about to come down.And it's being pulled down by radical Islamists, is it? Whoops! Didn't think so. It's amazing that someone can say an incident of racial unrest is totally unrelated to wider tensions in the same town while at the same time implying some connection between these two things.
Plus, the KICC is not Church of England, but evangelical. Or, extremist, you might say - if you used the same criteria to describe extremism as Phillips does for Muslims. And there's this from the KICC website:
It is our vision to build a 10,000-seater church building and a four floor office - a state-of-the art facility providing:Presumably, this is not bad.
10,000 seats for worship; 1,000 place children's church; 600 place teenage church; a counselling and prayer centre; class rooms for Bible School; 100 place nursery; 400-seater restaurant; a fully equipped gym. A place for the total healing of the total man and the total nation. We stand here today to proclaim with confidence that these dreams will come to reality because they are inspired by God.
And, from Wikipedia:
In October 2005 the Charity Commission of England and Wales released its Inquiry Report on the KICC (aka The King's Ministry Trust) [...] On the basis of its initial findings, the Commission concluded that there was serious misconduct and mismanagement in the administration of the Charity and that the Charity’s property was at risk. Ashimolowo acted as both paid employee and trustee of the church against UK charity law and was responsible for approving payments and benefits to himself and his wife, Yemisi. Benefits received included free accommodation for himself and family, a £120,000 birthday party including an £80,000 car, over half a million pounds paid out to Ashimolowo's private companies, which were operated from church property and purchase of a Florida timeshare property.I would say that I presume Phillips thinks this is not bad either, but I bet eight million dollars she wasn't even aware of it, because for Phillips, Christian is good and to be trusted while Islam is to be feared and checked at every turn. That's not demonisation though. Oh no.
Next:
What greater symbol can there be of the retreat of Christianity and its replacement by militant Islam? This is why the argument over the place of the veil and the cross in public life is so significant. This is not about prejudice or discrimination. It is about cultural survival.What a fucking load of shit. It's about prejudice pure and simple. I've never read such a poorly argued rant, including so many fallacies and such abundant evidence of prejudice as this. Argung for Islamic values is wrong, but arguing for Christian ones isn't. Saying people should be separated is not separatist, but mixing with others is. Ascribing malign intent to the actions of Muslims while ignoring the corruption of Christians is not demonising Muslims. Ignoring plans to build a massive church while assigning evil intent to plans to build a massive mosque is not demonising Muslims. Do me a favour, you crazy effing loon.
05/04/2006
Melanie Phillips - really rather odd
I first came across Melanie Phillips a while ago, whislt watching Question Time. (Not like that, you filthy buggers. I know I said I like programmes with bosoms in, but Jesus). Anyway, I didn't know who she was then, and was taken aback that she didn't take the opportunity to slag off the sexist homophobe Rocco Buttiglione, who looked as though he'd be appointed as EU Commissioner for Justice. She said something weaselly about how lots of people agree with him instead. I remember thinking she was a bit of a wrongun then, and everything I've seen since from her confirms it.
For a start, she has a book out called 'Londonistan', which reminds me of the crap old jokes about having too many of 'them' over here that Conservative shadow ministers used to get the sack for telling. But Phillips is talking about the religion and not the people, so that's alright then.
Her latest diary entry is titled 'Welcome, Dr Rice, to Londonistan*' and is about Condoleezza Rice's recent visit to some places that aren't London, so it's off to a good start.
The thing that strikes me most about Phillips's writing is how much she preaches to the choir. She's obviously not trying to convince anyone that what she's saying is right - she just expects us to think it is. That's fine for all those readers that have a Melanie-Phillips-O-Vision hat, but some of us don't know how big the colander and potato have to be so we can make one, or how much tin foil we'll need. It's not fair.
She opens by stating:
Apparently, Melanie Phillips used to be a left-leaning columnist. It's easier to see how she moved to the right when you take her seeing people as groups into account. If she started from the position that left wing people have one set of beliefs and right wing people have another, and she was left wing, it would only take her examining one of her left wing beliefs and disagreeing with it to move wholesale to the right. It's like buying a really cheap suit in a sale. You can find one where the jacket fits but the trousers are miles too big, but you have to buy the whole suit or get nothing. Of course, she would have had to start from the position of not basing her beliefs on evidence and arbitrarily just choosing sides (which is weird), but it kind of makes sense. That's why she views it as 'taking a line' - as if you can just ignore certain facts if you want to so you can spin things in such a way that they agree with the line you've chosen to take.
Back in the diary entry, she lists some of the things she doesn't like about the protests. You have to have your special hat well tuned to follow this one.
But all that's not what really narks off our Mel. "It is the lethal moral inversion of the argument" that comes from not protesting about Yusuf al-Qaradawi meeting with the Mayor of London, but protesting about Condoleezza visiting Bradford and Liverpool that gets her goat.
There are a few reasons why this is a bit of a lame argument to make, some of them go like this:
1. Yusuf al-Qaradawi is less well known than Condoleezza Rice.
2. The claims about Qaradawi's extremism are quite possibly bollocks. The claims about Condoleezza Rice being US Secretary of State and National Security Advisor are somewhat less controversial.
3. If Qaradawi called for the withdrawal of British and American troops from Iraq tomorrow, bog all would happen. If Condoleezza Rice or Jack Straw did, on the other hand, something just might.
I like the next bit, explaining why people are protesting against Rice's visit. And only partly because the writing is so excruciatingly cack:
The rest of the entry is based on the lame strawman argument that people are protesting becasue they think US are engaged in a war against the innocent in Iraq. (Although in one sense, this is true. The Iraqis were innocent of having weapons of mass destruction - the charge that led us to war in the first place). Of course, this is a gross oversimplification of the protesters' position, but that's the point. The whole point of this piece to crowbar people into the neat groups Phillips wants them to be in - and you can see this towards the end:
For a start, she has a book out called 'Londonistan', which reminds me of the crap old jokes about having too many of 'them' over here that Conservative shadow ministers used to get the sack for telling. But Phillips is talking about the religion and not the people, so that's alright then.
Her latest diary entry is titled 'Welcome, Dr Rice, to Londonistan*' and is about Condoleezza Rice's recent visit to some places that aren't London, so it's off to a good start.
The thing that strikes me most about Phillips's writing is how much she preaches to the choir. She's obviously not trying to convince anyone that what she's saying is right - she just expects us to think it is. That's fine for all those readers that have a Melanie-Phillips-O-Vision hat, but some of us don't know how big the colander and potato have to be so we can make one, or how much tin foil we'll need. It's not fair.
She opens by stating:
"It is a telling commentary in itself on the times in which we are living that a Conservative politician took the line that the protests were entirely justified because the Americans are so awful and they are doing such terrible things in Iraq and we were taken to war on a lie and..."Indeed it is. They're times in which the protests are justified because the Americans are doing terrible things in Iraq (click the 'Former US Soldiers' link) and we were taken to war on a lie. But in Melanie Phillips' world it's beyond the pale that a Conservative politician can 'take that line'. This is partly because Phillips tends not to see people as individuals, but as part of one monolithic group or another. Conservative politicians must say this war is good and protest is bad, regardless of whatever facts might be pertinent, because that's what Conservative politicians believe.
Apparently, Melanie Phillips used to be a left-leaning columnist. It's easier to see how she moved to the right when you take her seeing people as groups into account. If she started from the position that left wing people have one set of beliefs and right wing people have another, and she was left wing, it would only take her examining one of her left wing beliefs and disagreeing with it to move wholesale to the right. It's like buying a really cheap suit in a sale. You can find one where the jacket fits but the trousers are miles too big, but you have to buy the whole suit or get nothing. Of course, she would have had to start from the position of not basing her beliefs on evidence and arbitrarily just choosing sides (which is weird), but it kind of makes sense. That's why she views it as 'taking a line' - as if you can just ignore certain facts if you want to so you can spin things in such a way that they agree with the line you've chosen to take.
Back in the diary entry, she lists some of the things she doesn't like about the protests. You have to have your special hat well tuned to follow this one.
"What is so striking about these protests [...] is not just that it is extraordinarily bone-headed to insult and alienate the ally on whom we continue to depend for our protection; it is not just the craven appeasement of intimidation"Right, craven appeasement of intimidation is bad. Gotcha. But why is it "bone-headed to insult and alienate the ally on whom we continue to depend for our protection"? Is it because they might remove that protection if we do? Isn't the threat of removing protection for not toeing the line a form of intimidation in itself? Therefore, if we shy away from seeming discourteous to an 'ally' because they might remove protection if we do, aren't we also appeasing intimidation? Of course, you have to think that protesting against something you disagree with is appeasement of intimidation in the first place, but if you're Melanie Phillips, that's easy.
But all that's not what really narks off our Mel. "It is the lethal moral inversion of the argument" that comes from not protesting about Yusuf al-Qaradawi meeting with the Mayor of London, but protesting about Condoleezza visiting Bradford and Liverpool that gets her goat.
There are a few reasons why this is a bit of a lame argument to make, some of them go like this:
1. Yusuf al-Qaradawi is less well known than Condoleezza Rice.
2. The claims about Qaradawi's extremism are quite possibly bollocks. The claims about Condoleezza Rice being US Secretary of State and National Security Advisor are somewhat less controversial.
3. If Qaradawi called for the withdrawal of British and American troops from Iraq tomorrow, bog all would happen. If Condoleezza Rice or Jack Straw did, on the other hand, something just might.
I like the next bit, explaining why people are protesting against Rice's visit. And only partly because the writing is so excruciatingly cack:
"Why? Because the US is apparently waging war against the innocent in Iraq. Excuse me?? The US is currently in Iraq at the express request of the Iraqis themselves to defend the innocent against the war being waged against them."Umm...no they're not. They're there because of the weapons of mass destruction Iraq didn't have.
"The US went to war in Iraq to start unpicking the axis of terror that so threatens the world. "Umm...no they didn't. They went to war because of the weapons of mass destruction Iraq didn't have.
The rest of the entry is based on the lame strawman argument that people are protesting becasue they think US are engaged in a war against the innocent in Iraq. (Although in one sense, this is true. The Iraqis were innocent of having weapons of mass destruction - the charge that led us to war in the first place). Of course, this is a gross oversimplification of the protesters' position, but that's the point. The whole point of this piece to crowbar people into the neat groups Phillips wants them to be in - and you can see this towards the end:
"It is the big propaganda lie of the enemies of freedom and democracy, promulgated by those who have every interest in bringing about the defeat of the west – both radical Islamists and the extreme left, now in close and unholy alliance with each other in the Stop the War Coalition and elsewhere – and now fast becoming the accepted unwisdom of those who opposed the war for more respectable reasons."I love the 'enemies of freedom and democracy' bit. It's so 1950's. Anyway, she presents an oversimplified strawman view of why one set of anti-Iraq (and Iran, it should be stressed) protesters oppose the war, and then implies that anyone else who is not in this set also oppose the war for this reason - without ever demonstrating once that anyone opposes the war purely for this reason in the first place. It would be like me writing something that says 'Melanie Phillips is pro war because she thinks Iraqi people are just evil - and it's now becoming the accepted unwisdom of all Daily Mail readers.' The first claim is bollocks to start with, and the second is even more so (well, maybe not - but I'm making a point here). This sort of thing is extremely shoddy, and wouldn't get past anyone who didn't agree with Phillips in the first place, but that doesn't matter, does it? Get in your box, you foul enemy of freedom and democracy you. That way our Mel can dismiss you without ever having to listen to what you actually have to say.
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